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''This Mother Forever'' (12")

Belief system fails, leaves behind a spiritual void...

Vinyl and Sleeve (Picture from ebay):
Generic plain white sleeve and white label vinyl, both stamped.
The vinyl was only available at the release show, so if you weren't there and you didn't 'win' the ebay copy, then you might be waiting a while... but do you really need to own this when it's just a bit of plastic and a few bits of white paper?

Yes, obviously...

The ebay ad mentioned a poster; maybe it's a lyric sheet like this?



Tracks: This Mother Forever B/W  Our Own Blood
Year: 2016
Label: Fucked Up records (Self release) FU: 014
Matrix A
Matrix B
(Watch those spaces)

Pressing Info: (Figures kindly confirmed by Slasher Records)
1st Press 250 copies

See above

No known variants


1. Similar package to the "Looking For Gold" 12", but without the pasted artwork. In fact no artwork at all (assuming the insert is as above). This reassures me that "Nothing is Everything" as I contemplate the 12" space on my shelf, where this record should be.

2. "Then we are taken on a journey through the void - we witness the inner workings of the universe"  From Pitchfork review describing the segment commencing at 8:04.

3. "Our Own Blood" features Inuit Throat Singer Tanya Tagaq.


I was so young when I disapeared. When I woke up I was here...
Sleeve - Front

Sleeve - Back

Insert - Front
Insert - Back
Second insert - Tribute to Will Munro (Single-sided)


Tracks: Blink B/W The Way We Did
Released: 2014
Label: Fucked Up records (Self release) FU: 012
Matrix A: FU012-A   R-29038
Matrix B: FU012-B   R-29039
Pressing Info: 500
Inserts: Regular inserts as pictured above
Variants: No variants


FU Website Post - June 05 2014:
You didn’t think we were just going to release a new full-length LP with an additional deluxe version that had an alternate drum pass and just leave it at that right? C’mon you know us better than that by now. We’re gonna have a few Glass Boys sessions 7″s coming out this summer. The first one you can pre-order today at our new merch store: Our store has 100 copies for sale and the rest will be available next week in Toronto at some things and on our tour in Europe in a couple weeks. And that’s probably it. 500 copies total. This is an FU self-release, FU:012 if you’re counting.

The record has “Blink” b/w “The Way We Did”, two songs we recorded during the Glass Boys sessions and maybe should’ve made the record because they are really good. The songs are about subcultures and growing up in the Toronto scene.

Sleeve Notes:

From same FU  post as above:
On the cover of the record is a picture of Will Munro, a notorious Toronto personality who left us way too soon. You can read about his outsized influence on Toronto culture in this book Army of Lovers by Sarah Liss. Included in the record is something that Mike wrote about Will on Looking For Gold that you can read here.

Will Munro

Insert image is central part of photo taken at Long Winter Show, by 'Take More Photos' 

Labels: Geometric pattern with central sun

The geometric patterns of Islamic art constitute an infinite pattern that extends beyond the visible material world.... the best art that can be created by man for use in the Mosque is art that displays the underlying order and unity of nature. The order and unity of the material world, is a mere ghostly approximation of the spiritual world, which is the place where the only true reality exists. (Modified from Wikipedia).

Mosque Wall

'We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink. (Nietzsche)

''Looking For Gold''

God did not choose to give us the medicines prepared. He wants us to cook them ourselves.
Paracelsus  (LFG Blog)

Sleeve - Front: Artwork pasted onto generic sleeve (this one needs re-sticking)
Sleeve - Back

Tracks: A: Looking For Gold, B: ''More Gold'' (Fate of Fates)
Year: 2004
Label: Self Release
Matrix A: RH 00-A
Matrix B: RH 00-B

Pressing Info:
1st Press 300 (Sept 2004)  (No Test Presses)
2nd 400 (Feb 2005) or maybe 300

All versions have same 'Let a Fool Walk in Darkness' A3-size insert


    • First Press
    • Second Press (has sharper print quality on back of sleeve)
    • Unstamped
    • Stamped (Labels & sometimes dust sleeve)
    • 'The Baiting of Chicago' Sleeve (Chicago show poster folded over regular sleeve - see further down)

    Stamped labels (and dust sleeve). Image borrowed from Doug's SITE
    Stamped labels and dust sleeve. Image borrowed from Doug's SITE


    In November 2005, three and a half years after the first press of 'No Pasaran', the Looking For Gold blog appeared. The following text combining the lyrics with explanatory comments is copied from the second post on the blog, it appears here with some of the redundant links updated, a few new ones and images added and the text fonts changed...

    Looking For Gold

    Our amber paths are etched to globes in code
    We ride on tigers through fields of young and old
    We search among you men looking for gold''

    Amber paths refers to ancient trade routes that prospectors once believed to lead the way to gold deposits. When our world still had frontiers, much secretism and code was made to preserve these and other sorts of areas. It is common knowledge that even Columbus was in possession of maps that lead him directly to the New World. The double meaning of these paths is revealed as the song progresses.
    "Riding the Tiger" was a phrase coined by Julius Evola (and later corrupted by Yo La Tengo, Jefferson Starship and others), used to describe a method of surviving in a corrupted world: by living on the back of the beast, you avoid its most harmful elements, that of the claws and teeth.

    ''Within the mines of human minds we seek to gain the Masters of the Name:
    Are you the fire or just another flame?''

    The "Masters of the Name" (known also as the Baalei Shem) were a Jewish mystic sect of the 10th and 11th centuries, who were thought to be able to use the true names of God to perform feats of magic - stirring the oceans, raising the dead, and making themselves invisible. The sect became for a time a popular religious movement in Europe, and was associated with the Kabbalist Isaac the Blind.

    The "fire-flame" line comes from a song by the 50s singing group The Orioles.

    ''We are the fluids that dance upon the rest
    We follow deeper laws possessed within this mess 
    We perch atop the very writhing beast 
    Out of reach are we from all its claws and teeth

    Our lives are shot to god from living bows 
    We live in streams of mercury 
    We're a current through the centuries''


    The first line comes from this Evola quote: "Life is like a bow and the soul like an arrow, the target being aimed at is the Supreme Spirit", and describes his ideal human life. Keep in mind that Evola (nor this song) does not use the conception of "God" in a traditional sense - while being a mystical fascist and under the temporary employ of Mussolini (who thought Evola had magical powers), he was also a devout Buddhist and student of eastern religions.
    Mercury, or "quicksilver", as it was known by alchemists, is one of the seven alchemical metals, and was of utmost importance practically, as its reaction to nitric acid produced a dramatic red smoke, but also metaphorically, as they thought the element transcended the solid and liquid states, and represented the transcendence over life and death, and heaven and hell. The metal is often represented by a serpent or a snake. Coincidentally, mercury is liquid at room temperature. So is the element Francium, of which there are thought to be less than 20 atoms of on the entire planet at any given moment.

    ''As legends fade and Kali wakes
    Our fate owes no faith to this age
    So we spend the final days looking for gold
    The smoke that rises from our stone will turn this world to dust''


    Kali Yuga describes both an age and a creature in Indian mythology.

    Kali, the Goddess, is associated with death, violence, blood and sex. Some interpretations of Tantric texts place her as the ultimate reality and source of being.


    Kali Yuga, the age, also referred to as the Iron Age, refers to the age in which we currently reside, and describes the downfall of the gods, and general chaos enveloping humanity. Hindus await Kalki, the 10th and final avatar of Vishnu, riding a white horse and striking down the wicked with a sword. Note the cover of the 12".


    After the conclusion of this age, time is reset and brings about a Golden Age. A similar theme is described in the Bible, the Eddas of Norse mythology (the coming of Ragnarok), and of course the 3rd Matrix movie.

    ''High and low, above below
    We look in places no one goes
    To boil the base and to transmute the world
    We Pan the rivers endlessly
    To forge a golden dynasty
    Our chemistry turns living into light.''

    Pan on Greek Coin

    "As below, so above; and as above so below" is used in alchemy to describe the transmutation from lower to higher elements. The alchemical process is briefly described in this section.
    "Pan" is capitalized because it refers to the act of panning for gold, but also to the Greek God Pan, the satyr-god who lords over shepherds and flocks. The connotations should be clear.

    ''We beat the drum to stir the elements
    They separate to liberate the best
    Our suns are rising west transcend the meek
    Our laws will part the golden from the weak

    The bees decide who listens and who speaks
    Their golden mead is fed to heads we keep
    New worlds and paths do these new minds conceive
    Not those who could become but those who be
    We wont rest until the Golden Dawn
    We fight with our black books in this grim war...''

    Bees were once regarded by the British to be storers of sacred or important knowledge. Many British estates maintained several hives, and employed Bee Masters to speak to the bees. Special occasions and important decisions were always told to the bees in advance to ward good fortune. Bees have always been important symbols of sacred information. Many old illuminated texts will have small bee images.
    The Golden Dawn line is to push forward the gold imagery, but also of course refers to the track by Yngwie J. Malmsteen, by which of course I mean the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, an influential magical society founded in London England in 1888.

    Vesica Piscis

    Alchemists and mystics alike felt that the Earth had always been a place of Grim War between the forces of heaven and hell, a sort of spiritual and metaphysical battlegrounds.
    The little religious fish symbol (called an Ichtys) you see on peoples cars while meant to represent the feeding of the 5000 LP by the band Crass, it has also been said to be a VESICA PISCIS, the sliver image created when two globes are crossed (thus the battleground image - the sliver represents earth, while the two globes represent heaven and hell), where such icons like Jesus like to hang out.

     Haymaker Split - Dee credit for vocals, not guitar

    And of course, the grim war line also refers to a Grimoire, which is a type of book written in the 18th century that will contain magical spells and conversations with angels. The most famous grimoire was written by the Elizabethan magi John Dee, who founded Enochian magic (practised by the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and concerns the sacred language of God) after deciphering his conversations with a series of angels. Dee, considered by many to be the first true renaissance man, was also the basis for Shakespeare's Prospero character, and invented the term "British Empire", and played guitar for Fucked Up on the Haymaker split 7".

    ''Whole in the broken, straight in the bent
    We make the muddy waters clear
    We plunge to depths unknown for the adepts
    We secure conditions for the rest
    And we rise

    On horses black we plunder through
    The white with serpents eggs strapped to
    Our backs are turned against the silver moon''

    Here is a description of the cover piece again. The attempt to bring darkness to light. 

    This union of opposites idea is rife in the upcoming Fucked Up LP Hidden World.

    Two Snakes

    A serpents egg is also known as a philosophers stone (also known as the Rebis, or great equalizer, which is used by alchemists as a vehicle for the alchemical transformation. It is most often a powder, used in the hopes of transforming base metals into silver or gold. There's that serpent again.


    'Transcend transmute to absolutes
    The serpent sun illuminates 
    Our golden age where all the lead is gone''

    The record uses the same symbolism and metaphors that alchemical texts used to do, for the same purpose. Alchemy was on one hand a legitimate scientific pursuit, and was the precursory to the (more) legitimate science of chemistry, but on the other hand a grand and historical religious metaphor. Texts that gave instructions on ingredient mixing were also religious codes that could be read only by adepts. The transformation from lead to gold was the attempt also to transform baser human lives into greater ones, the transformation of death into life, human into god. Many alchemists were in fact looking for the elixir of life, in order to bring humanity a step closer to the heavens (see Dee's conception of the Jacob's Ladder). The song describes the pursuit of an adepts through a wicked world, looking for more adepts.
    The connotations for such a message in today's world can be wide ranging, but takes from the mythology and tradition of 1000's of years of heresy and magic.

    2005 Blog Post (Intro to above):

    Much mystery has surrounded the release of the first self-released FUCKED UP 12", "Looking for Gold". Released in two separate runs of 300 copies to coincide with short tours that took place from 23-25th September 2004 (Chicago/Columbus/Pittsburgh), and 15-17th November 2004 (Albany/Sherbrooke/Montreal), the record was never repressed and quickly became sought-after by collectors and fuck-heads.

    Many have since been able to acquire the music through electronic means.

    What has been lost on those unable to own this record are the lyrics, artwork and meaning of the project.
    The front and back pieces were commissioned to a local Toronto artist Greg Miller.
    The front cover painting is by an 18th century Viennese artist who is now forgotten. It shows a black knight on horseback being chased out of a forest by a cadre of white gods and cherubs, as if to retrieve something that has been stolen. The image uses important alchemical symbolism and is meant to invert the classic white-black dualism. In this case sympathy is placed on the black, and seemingly villainous knight as he attempts evasion of his captors with a perhaps valuable prize in tow.

    The lyrics on the backplate describe what we are all attempting to steal from the gods and angels:

    2010 Blog post regarding artwork:

    We used to get all the art for our records from either art books from my university library, or the image bank at the big central municipal library. Around the time we did this record and Dance of Death, I was getting into the fantastic realism artists from Vienna like Alfred Kubin and Max Klinger. I think this picture came from a book called "The Fantastic Art of Vienna". I don't remember who did the piece because I think it's a really minor work, but it again describes the lyrics perfectly. What struck me about the piece is how it inverts the classic white-black dualism you see everywhere. The black guy on the horse looks like the good guy, and the white angels kind of look like demons. Its got some heavy alchemy symbolism going on, which was something else we were really feeling at the time. Looking for Gold is kind of the most important Fucked Up record and describes the age old quest for the idealized humanity. Alchemy was really heavy on dualism (which we stopped digging on Hidden World) and is therefor really useful as symbolism for punk bands, who exist almost entirely to be placed in opposition to some other prevailing force. The last verse of the song is "On horses black we plunder through, The white with serpents eggs strapped to, Our backs are turned against the silver moon". The illumination was done by a friend who I used to work with.

    Blog comment on above post:

    Anonymous Anonymous said...
    The picture from the "looking for gold" 12" often illustrates the poem "DER ERLK├ľNIG" by German poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - if anyone cares ...

    From Discogs:

    Depending on exactly where you place the needle to start playing the A-side, it could play either of two intro tracks, as there are two sets of grooves running parallel. Both segue directly into the title track. This is the "hidden track" that is commonly referred to.

    Intro on digital version  - Second Enochian Key read by Aleister Crowley
    Can the Wings of the Wind understand your voices of Wonder? O Ye! the second of the First! whom the burning flames have framed in the depth of my Jaws! Whom I have prepared as cups for a wedding, or as flowers in their beauty for the chamber of Righteousness! Stronger are your feet than the barren stone; and mightier are your voices than the manifold winds! For you are become a building such as is not, save in the Mind of the All-Powerful.

    Commodity Fetishism
    This section is normally reserved for test pressings and variations that were available in less than 30, but this one gets a special dispensation, even though it's numbered out of 40 and more of a pairing rather than a variation. Known as the 'Baiting of Chicago' sleeve, it's basically a gig poster, folded to conceal the record.

    Looking For Gold, with 'The Baiting of Chicago'  'sleeve'. 
    Chicago was the first date of the tour, so this might be considered a record release cover.
    This one is numbered 36/40

    Part of email message from someone who was at the show:
    ...the story behind the "Baiting of Chicago" cover for the LFG 12" is kind of confusing. Those gig flyers were numbered and given out at the show, and the 12" was sold for the first time at the show, but the two items were not sold together. A former roommate of mine who went to the show with me decided it would increase the record's value on eBay if he sold the numbered flyer with the limited record. He called it the Chicago edition or something, and it helped him net a few more bucks while further complicating the reliability of information on FU records.

    Two Fakes

    (Fake Dangerous Fumes & Baiting with Wrong Labels)

    Same Vinyl - Two Records

    After the first press of ''Baiting The Public'', (a release designed to frustrate and confuse), the band received another 250 copies of the record; these new ones had accidentally been pressed with the same labels as ''Epics in Minutes'' - the so-called 'Secret' 7''. 
    ''Fake Epics'' Vinyl - Looks a bit like the Secret 7".

    As any nerd knows, different record pressings can be identified by the unique matrix code in the vinyl run-out, near the centre of the record. However the Baiting 'mispress' came with (almost) the same matrix text as the 'Secret' 7'' and the matrix was therefore a red herring.

    Both records came in a generic white dust sleeve;  in their original form they look identical. This could prove confusing - a cynical person might think this version of 'Baiting' was pressed with the intent of extending the original prank;  not so much a mispress, more a fake version of the Secret 7".  

    ''Fake Epics'' Generic sleeve, conveniently annotated
    It seems the band were aware of the trouble this might bring and so after they'd given away a bunch of ''Fake Epics'' (maybe at the same time as the Secret 7'' and maybe inadvertently mixing the two up a little), they helpfully attempted to avoid further confusion by taking a bunch more and gluing new labels on to make the ''Fake Dangerous Fumes''. 
    ''Fake Dangerous Fumes'' Left: Photocopy sleeve showing 'uncropped' image used for Dangerous Fumes - the container in the foreground was cropped out of the final version.  Right: Disk with Litany labels glued over Epics labels

    The real ''Dangerous Fumes'' was not released at this point, so for a while it was a fake copy of something that didn't exist. Also, because it didn't exist, they didn't have Dangerous Fumes labels, so they used the ones from ''Litany'' instead. The vinyl has a big hole and the labels have a small one so they are a bit flimsy in the middle...

    ''Fake Dangerous Fumes'' Sleeve folded out


    Tracks: Baiting The Public (Split over two sides)
    ''Released'': ''Fake Epics'' - 2003. ''Fake Dangerous Fumes'' - 2005
    Label: ''Fake Epics'' has the same labels as ''Epics in Minutes''. ''Fake Dangerous Fumes'' has the same labels as the first press of ''Litany''

    Pressing Info:
    250 in total, divided into two 'bunches':
    Bunch 1: ''Fake Epics in Minutes'' looked the same as ''Epics in Minutes'' and given away.
    Bunch 2:  Made into''Fake Dangerous Fumes'' and sold on first West Coast Tour (2005)

    No regular insert.

      Notes 1: Fake Epics

      From FU Board:

      How were the ‘baiting with epics labels’ put to use? Was there a kind of Situationist thing going on where hapless folk were tricked into thinking they’d got hold of the ‘secret’ 7″ when really they just had a baiting the public disk, which paradoxically the actual vinyl was rarer than both epics and the regular baiting?

      the epics baiting labels i think were a misprint because we got baiting and the secret 7″ pressed at the same time and some came back with misprinted labels so we gave a bunch of them away.

      Notes 2: Fake Dangerous Fumes

      From 'Couple Tracks' LP insert notes regarding ''Dangerous Fumes'' 7":
      This song has been kicking through the FU discography for a while. Nerds will note its first appearance as a fake 7" that we sold on our first west coast tour. It consisted of a ''Baiting The Public'' 7'' with ''Litany'' labels that we glued on, and a photocopied ''Dangerous Fumes'' Cover. 

      Sleeve Notes

      Dante's Inferno: Back image of Fake Dangerous Fumes is an extract of a picture showing Bertran de Born  ''who carries around his severed head like a lantern (a literal representation of allowing himself to detach his intelligence from himself)'' (1).
      The scene is from Bolgia Nine in the the Eighth Circle of Hell (Dante's Inferno). Significantly, the eighth circle is for those that commit FRAUD, also Bertran de Born is portrayed in the story as a sower of discord.

      vBig gap v

      Fake: Big gap between 'Red Herring' & 'Red'

      Not Fake: Small gap between 'Red Herring' & 'Red'.
       'RE1' opposite - see top right

      ''Since U Been Gone''


      ...and then out of the blue, this skeleton image appears on FU's instagram. So it looks like the above picture shows the front of the sleeve and the ones below show the back. Or vice versa. Probably.

      2006- Since You've Been Gone 10" acetate - bootleg
      From 'Partial Discography' (Published 2008):

      Some 12" FU records and a 10'' FU record:
      There are 2 known (to the person writing this) FU 10"s; the Altamont 10" was released after this picture was taken.
      Close-up of the 10" record:
      Appears to be hand-numbered 1/25

      FU Since u Been Gone 78rpm #
      The image shows Damian in a stripey top

      Tracks: Since U Been Gone (cover of song originally by Kelly Clarkson)
      Year: 2006
      Label: (Probably) not on label
      Matrix A:
      Matrix B:
      Pressing Info: According to rumours in 2013, there are 2 acetate copies. Apparently there used to be 3, but one got lost...


      From LFG Comments on post (April 11 2011):

      Anonymous Anonymous said...

      Ayo, so does the Since U Been Gone 10" actually exist? I got word that Damian had the acetate and that it was never pressed.
      11:17 AM

      Anonymous Anonymous said...


      Check out the 10" in the lowest row way to the right... looks like the real deal to me ...
      6:21 AM

      Blogger HiddenWorld said...

      it exists. there are 3.

      Acetate (master disk) - Text copied from from Misfits Central:
      The first step in the record pressing process is the creation of the master disk, or acetate, which is cut directly from the master tape of the recording. An acetate is a piece of aluminum coated with a layer of vinyl, into which grooves are cut, like a record. Unlike records, however, acetates are usually (see below) one sided, and come in pairs, one for each side of the album. They also often have two center holes; one hole is the standard center hole which acts as the axis for rotation, and the other hole is used by the guiding arm to turn the acetate while the writing stylus cuts the grooves. Some plants now use single-holed acetates which are held in place by suction.
      One or, at most, two acetate sets are typically made for an album. Due to their composition, acetates begin to lose their sound quality within a matter of days. If an acetate is not used within three days, another set needs to be cut, or the sound quality of the finished product will suffer. For this reason, the acetate pair is sent immediately (via express mail) to the plater.

      ''Mixtape 1'':
      18) "Since U Been Gone" - snippet

      Official Video #1:

      Official Video #2:

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